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You were a year older recently how have you fared so far?
All praises and honour to God. I have every reason to thank God for the opportunity of being born and his mercies for sparing my life despite all my shortcomings. we must thank God all the time, not just on birthdays.
What experience of life do you cherish most?
I think it has to do with the challenges of having to be a woman and being in charge of Bauchi State Signages and Advertisement Management Agency ( BASAMA) in a part of the world that is male-dominated. I think it is quite challenging being a southerner and the first Managing Director/Chief Executive Officer of the newly established agency in the north. I’m in charge of advertisement and revenue generation. Nobody likes the idea of paying taxes to government.
What are the challenges faced with tax payers, especially those in the informal sector?
When you want people to pay the government for signage or tax, it is always a big problem. the 21 banks operating in the state once took us to court because they were asked to pay signage. we also have instances where a major telecommunication company took us to court because it didn’t want to pay outdoor advert fees. These are some of the challenges. we thank God we have been able to rise above them. When it comes to the informal sector, I believe in negotiation and not confrontation. I believe that there is nothing the round table discussion cannot resolve. And because of that, we have been sensitising them on what the revenue is about; explaining why it has to be generated; why the state needs it and the importance of outdoor advertisement to their business. In the informal sector for example, N5,000 is paid per annum. This amount is very small compared with the service the government is rendering.
As one of the leading lights for women in business, what do you think is the place of women in the society? I think women still have a long way to go. I have come across women who are up to the task, but our male-dominated society just won’t give them the opportunity. In the United Kingdom, one of the best prime ministers ever is a woman, that is Margaret Thatcher. A woman and a man should have equal opportunity, we shouldn’t be seen as being given special privilege, like setting aside between 35 per cent and 38 per cent of electoral offices for women as being canvassed by the First lady and women interest groups. A woman and a man should have equal rights. These days, if you look at the performance of students in schools, girls do better. A girl is more clever, but as she grows into womanhood, her progress is slowed down because she comes under the control of her husband; she takes permission from her husband to do certain things. Thus, unconsciously, she gets relegated. That is why women who actually go out there and succeed are single women. For any woman to say she wants to be a governor in Nigeria, she must have a husband. Most women who are determined to make it big when faced with option of their home or ambition often tend to drop their home, while some will opt for the family. You now find out that dropping the home will make them come under criticism of the public. They most often end up losing their home and ambition. But now we have women who are senators, members of House of representatives and the like. The society and men should understand that women do have ambitions too which must be fulfilled. Discrimination against women is evident right from birth. When a male child is born, there is so much joy, but when it is a female, there is a subtle disappointment.
As a successful business and career woman, how do you juggle your official work with home keeping?
The home life is there, it is not suffering. I have kids who are close to me and coming out with A* in their results. A woman’s success is measured by the substance of her achievement. A woman’s substance is not measured by the amount of money or wealth she has, but by her children’s well-being. As soon as many of the wealthy Nigerians die, everything they have die with them.
As a traditional office holder, do you see the traditional institution outliving the present generation?
It will surely outlive this generation and many to come. I believe the traditional institution is here to stay, any deviation from that will bring disaster to the country. in the north, a child will respect the emir after God and probably his parent. when you go before the emir, who is seen as the traditional and spiritual head, you will bow and take off your shoes to address him, even presidents do that in the most respectful manner while on courtesy calls. same goes for rulers in other parts of the country. The presence or existence of the traditional institution is responsible for the safety and calmness experienced in the country. They perform certain sacrifices to avert disasters in the society which most people do not know. if for any reason, any generation comes out to say that the traditional institution must be wiped out, it will spell doom for the country.
Despite the growing influence of Christianity and Islam, many Nigerians still hold the traditional religious institution with awe, especially when it has to do with seeking redress or punishment? What’s your take on that?
Traditional religion has earned itself that respect. if, for example, our leaders are asked to swear by Sango, I bet you, no one will. Christianity for example seems to be lenient. If you swear by the Bible or Quran, you receive judgment after you were dead. but if you try that in a traditional religious setting, the judgment is instant death. I am a traditionalist, I’m neither a Christian nor a Muslim; I will never slap you first, but if you slap me once, I will slap you 10 times. Besides, I am a lawyer, so I understand what I am doing.
The title Otunba sounds like a misnomer for a woman in the Yoruba tradition, how did you come about that?
Yes, I’m the Otunba Fibigbade of Ibefunland; a town close to Ijebu. It’s not common having women as Otunba, but in an exceptional case like mine, the woman earns the title in recognition of her achievements within and outside the town.
Do you have your husband’s support?
I will say to you there are no two men like my husband in life. He is very unique and understanding. Without him, it would have been impossible to achieve what I’ve been able to achieve today. He gives me every support that is necessary to achieve my goal in life.
What do you admire most in him?
That is the fact that he trusts me. one of the many reasons a man will not allow his wife to go beyond his view is lack of trust. He is a man that believes in himself.
What is your favourite pastime?
Walking. I love to walk, I love gardening too, and I love to cook. One thing I delight in doing is saying to my husband, “your food is ready” when he wakes up in the morning.
What do you do to keep fit?
I have a gym. I do a lot of aerobics. I’m learning to play squash, but what I love to do most is walk.
Where do you love visiting most?
Florida. I like spending my holidays there, even though I go to the United Kingdom more often. And, of course, when I go on holiday abroad, I don’t do like a typical Nigerian that thinks you must put up with someone there, thereby crowding up their house. When on holiday, I treat myself and my family to a splendid resort, a five star hotel, interesting places and activities. I go to Florida like every year, and believe me, I still have not seen it all.
What is your fashion taste like?
I like African attires.
your favourite colour?
white.
Any reason for the choice of white?
Religious, of course.
Your best meal?
I love any good food, but I love pasta most. I love pounded yam and vegetables too.
